Hold them to the claim they actually made

They defend the modest version and act like they've proved the bold one.

Someone says something big. You push. They retreat to something small and obvious ('all I'm saying is people should be careful'), win that, and then carry on as if the big thing stood. Don't let the retreat pass unnoticed: 'That's not what you said — you said X. Are we arguing X or the safe version?'

Instead of

Well, sure, everyone should be careful, fine.

Try

Being careful I'm with you on. But you said it should be banned. Which one are we arguing?

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When someone retreats to 'all I'm saying is…', say back the bolder thing they actually said.

The science

Coined by philosopher Nicholas Shackel (2005, 'The Vacuity of Postmodernist Methodology') and popularised by Scott Alexander: the defensible motte, the desirable bailey.

Where you'd actually use it

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